The profile was used from 2016 to 2017 on platforms including Snapchat and Instagram and used photos of a known male model, portraying him as being extremely wealthy and owning numerous sports cars. LE doesnt have much in the way of good, solid evidence against Mr. X. Crime scene photos leaked? : r/LibbyandAbby - reddit We reported them one year before it came out in the media that they were all true. But many questions still remain around the murders of Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14. I wonder how they made sure everyone on that team stayed tight lipped, especially after all of this time. Would you please email me? He got turned in because two brothers for some reason were saying that he was BG. The autopsy of the other would know if she was a virgin and even if the killer violated her with whatever she would have bled a little so that could have been detected also. First, a pitch for support for this website and our sleuthing group: Our private group is clearly the best Delphi sleuthing group on the Internet by far and has been since it was founded four years ago in 2017. He took an undocumented deer trail and evaded the encountering of any individual upon his departure. On the photo of BG on the bridge, does anyone else see handcuffs instead of camera/knife bag? Mr. X needed the lost his keys excuse to explain how he stayed in that spot for 18 hours. Photos of Abby Williams, left, and Libby German, right, at police headquarters in Delphi, Indiana. The girls sleep in because they had been up late. Easy, they were lying! But it's just speculation at this point, because nothing has been confirmed. But my opinion isnt worth anything. You claim he works at Indiana Packers then say his profession is woodworking. -- New details have come to light in the unsolved Delphi, Indiana, double murder investigation with the publication of a police interview with a man who, according to transcripts . It was posted to Facebook by Allen's wife Kathy, 50, in 2018 - just over a year after the girls disappeared in February 2017, although it's unclear when the photo was taken. Only a deer kit looks just like that. We are very worried that the police may be trying to pin this crime on Kegan and Tony Kline and we know neither one is involved. Though she cannot comment on this investigation since its ongoing, she MAY be able to offer clues. He prefers whiskey, its his drink of choice and hes off without it. Do you feel that the KAK (Anthony_shots) announcement is a red herring or that its linked to the Delphi murders? Underwear, possible two pairs, was found in the river. Ok how on Earth do they know that BG shot 43 seconds of audio unless that rumor about sending the crime film to the phones is true? Do the searchers who found the bodies know if they were posed? Yes, this man is the prime suspect at the moment, but that doesnt mean a whole lot. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15568704. Five years later, Abigail Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14, were taken into custody Friday five years after Allen, 50, was found dead on a hiking trail in Delphi, Indiana, in February 2017. It would have to be a day or two before people would think to look. Im curious if Mr X knew KAK or his father? The girls bodies were found near a hiking trail on February 14, 2017 a day after they went missing while on a walk during a day off from school. I 100% agree about Mr X, and I recently seen a pic of his stepson which I think looks similar to the YBG sketch. Back to the POI, in February 2017, he lived next door to the cemetery which makes his actions and ruse around his truck & keys even more suspicious, if that is possible. Where did he get the food and what was the food? Do we know who this is and why he'd have photos? Maybe. 13, 2017. He wasnt searching for his keys early on. If this did happen, then they wouldn't have been able to tell if Abby was posed. Director of Atlantas Cold Case Research Institute and Atlanta metro-area CSI, Sheryl McCollum, said she believes the killer likely posed the victims bodies, instead of staging, for a form of gratification. Liberty German Fbi In the more than three years since the girls' tragic murders, very little evidence has been released about the case including the cause of death. The Indiana State Superintendent of Police is proud of the arrest of an accused in the Delphi massacre. They also think you get that way from your upbringing, especially with your father. The warrant, obtained by the Murder Sheet podcast and released to Indianapolis FOX59, offered no further detail on what the souvenir was, although it did say that 'the rest of [the girls'] clothing was recovered,' implying that the killer had taken something they'd been wearing. Photo Page - Delphi Homicides. If this roommate is correct, it looks like Mr. X worked in 2011-2012 at as packing plant in the Delphi area, and he was moved to near Evansdale, Iowa for a period during these two years to work on a sister plant near Evansdale. It said she was coming to deliver the keys. Then come email me and I will send you a link to the private group and a password to get you in. We also do not know why out of all of the places to search, he happened to pick the exact location where the girls were killed. 43 seconds of audio. Delphi, Indiana, police have been notoriously tight-lipped about the killings of 14-year-old Libby German and 13-year-old Abby Williams since the first news conference after the girls were found dead in February 2017. Which of them is LEs chief suspect? The two men may have been working at the Tyson plant in Logansport, Indiana and may have been shipped to the sister Tyson plant in Waterloo, Iowa, where they were put up temporarily in motels for months at a time. But they used experts to clean it up with fancy software and groups of experts got together to try to figure out what was being said. Youre not necessarily going to get that so much with a blunt type of weapon, Morgan said. I dont see a motive for Mr. X either, and he did live right there. Kelsis DNA was the only DNA found on the bodies. Abby may have been naked below the waist. Were their clothes found with the bodies at the crime scene? He has reportedly filed a plea of not guilty and is being held without bond. Holder has an alibi that he was working out at a gym at the time. Im not sure about their clothes, but they definitely crossed that creek all right. Liberty "Libby" German and Abigail "Abby" Williams. If he is wearing Indiana Packers workboots, this solves one more question. The Delphi murders are a bizarre crime that has sparked nationwide attention. A famous one is the Lewiston Killer in Lewiston, Idaho in the late 1970s. Employed at two factories in nearby towns as a machine operator in recent years. Others close to the victims, who I will not name, have channeled their grief into rage and lashing out at everyone around them. When I was young I would take off till late evening, and it was ok. Important residence periods: Moved to Evansdale, Iowa in 2011-2012 to work at a slaughterhouse possibly aligned with Tyson Foods there. In general, the less said about the other aspects of his life the better, and they have no relationship to this case anyway. I am 100% behind you. Girls in the pedohebephilic age range (8-14 years old) were brazenly abducted two at once from trails in busy parks in rural Midwestern towns in the middle of daytime with many people around. Bottom line is our theories now are dramatically more accurate than the 85% error rate we had earlier. The scope of this investigation in terms of who the police think did it and how it unfolded has been dramatically narrowed. Brad was a suspect for a while, and one of the detectives working on the case even stated off the record that he thought Brad did it. Im not stupid. DELPHI, Ind. Delphi Murders Transcripts: Suspect Said He Knew Libby German Was at You mentioned a pic of CSI workers with a doll a couple of days ago did anything come of this? Mr. X is married to BP sister which makes him Libbys uncle not blood relatedheard it somewhere on the Net it would be easy for you RL to check that out . Who says those videos are from him? See below for which rumors we believe are proven and which are unverified. Via LE Source A, we learned that LE has only recently started to believe that BG (Mr. X) is also responsible for the Evansdale Murders. I love you and the information youre releasing! Yes, the police have told us that they now think that Bridge Guy or Mr. X did Evansdale too. 3 I could know that some guy was a serial killer with 10 victims, and I dont have to go to the police. Im really worried about people bothering or harming this guy and his family. She has been featured in Psychic Investigators, Paranormal Witness, and interviewed by Nancy Grace! Mr. X has is not even at the Person of Interest stage in this case. youre smart enough you should be able to figure it out by these bomb-sized hints we keep dropping. LE caught Mr. X in the lies about losing his keys, calling his wife to bring him a spare, and a spare even existing in the first place. What are they doing to move this forward? The trail in Delphi, Indiana, where Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14, were killed on Feb. 13, 2017. This just doesnt bode well for him, I mean ESPECIALLY if you consider that he asked to search the Logan property and came up empty-handed. Video from one of the victim's phones shows a man on the trail wearing dark jacket and jeans. Kline is being held in jail after being arrested on separate child porn charges in 2020. You dont need a degree, credential, and a license to do this job, you know. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. All Rights Reserved. Not everyone was tied lipped, there were some rumors and messages on sm. There are unconfirmed rumors Mr. Xs truck was towed after his wife never came to bring the car keys and that Mr. Xs truck was never searched by police. Can you email me with her name, please? But no arrests have ever been made with several promising leads or theories arising over the years, only to go cold. Of course, we know now that they were killed but as far as LE was concerned, that very night, those girls were alive and may have been in desperate need of assistance. In the case of the search of the Maxwell home, a gun was taken from the home in order to do ballistics tests on it. He was one of the original witnesses who saw BG and gave a description. Thats very embarrassing. However, he was one of the searchers who found the bodies, and he was also known to have searched the area in the dark the previous evening. Its a very rare occurrence, only 1.3% of the victims is left in an unusual, corrected position. I am sure he was asked. Garrett said it's possible that the gun jammed and the killer turned to another weapon. There was posing. Some new info here. If so, wouldnt the coroner be able to obtain DNA from the fetus? So it looks like Mr. X is using to cutting up dead and possibly living animals with large knives. We park right at the front door. We know he had binoculars with him and he told the girls that he was a railroad policeman who had spotted them with binoculars. Because no debt or grudge or anything can ever justify 2 little girls being murdered. All of the speculation about their final moments is unconfirmed. Kegan Kline, 28, of Peru, Indiana, was named as a possible suspect in the girls' murders. I really dont see a motive for RL. As youve pointed out Mr. X did this before the search party had even assembled, right at the EXACT parcel of land that the girls bodies would be found the next day. Bottom line is the quality of our sources has increased dramatically over time. That leads me, and others more knowledgeable than me, that there was SOMETHING with the bodies (possibly posed)that local LE thought there could be a serial killer. Its all about the zero-sum game. Was he set up to take the fall? We wrote an article a while back pointing out that we felt Holder was innocent, and that set off a spate of hate mail and threats from him and his son, which we found odd. One seems to be PNB and the other is RRB. I didnt mean to imply that, sorry. I want you to know that your comment is no longer there. Missing for 2 years at the age of 5 and reported 2 years later out of Manchester, NH. We are not sure of Mr. Xs current job, but we think he might be selling wooden signs that he makes by himself and sells. I live in Pennsylvania and have been interested in this case since the time it happened. Indiana Cold Cases is similar and so is True Crime Jesus. The only DNA found on the girls was that of Kelsi, sister of Libby. The photo shows Brittany Zapanta, 28 - the daughter of Richard Allen, 50, on the Manon high bridge in the woods outside Delphi, Indiana. I see T. Neighboring state. Even if somehow she didnt know about some surrounding neighbors, couldnt LE just show her (or FSG or the bickering couple in the park etc,) a pic of Mr. X and get verification that way? This Feb. 13, 2017, file photo released by the Indiana State Police shows a man walking along the trail system in Delphi, Ind., authorities say is the suspect in the killings of two teenage girls. It turns out that BGs shoes are dead perfect matches for Indiana Packers workboots. I also believe there are other factors at play here possibly being protected and I dont think LE wants the truth of what happened to Abby and Libby to come out for whatever reason. What are those supposed Delphi Murders leaked text messages about? I am trying to be vague. The category below Proven is ally called Unverified with Different Qualifications. Its true by process of elimination. The boots appear to be Indiana Packers boots. Only if he had sent this much audio to one of the girls phones after the crime. Also, there is debate, but if you look at the scanner recording of the day when the bodies were found, the local PD says "keep them away" in response to a statement re: bystanders + FBI; resulting in debate about whether local pd was trying to keep FBI away and why. Also his personality is nothing like Scott Alexander, some sock who is claiming to be LK on Facebook groups. Have for a long time. Delphi Murders Leaked Texts Revealed The Evidence Behind Death If you wish to join, please go here. Continue reading to find out what the alleged Delphi Murders leaked text messages are all about. Also stated that Abby survived the initial attack and she crawled towards Libby. Thats technically true but in all my years of playing the part of a PIO and putting out press releases, Ive never intentionally told a lie. Why would they NOT want to look for those types of things in a child murder with likely sa involved? Klines voice, however, has not been ruled out. Calling off the search the night the girls went missing was a really, really bad choice. Innocent people are hurt and killed in these cases, but theyre not really high profile and we dont have time to mess with this epidemic. At this point, they dont even have enough for an arrest. Theyve had video and audio of the guy from the beginning and its been too long without an arrest. If so, why? If so, wouldnt the coroner be able to obtain DNA from the fetus? Oh, one more thing, Jim. We do indeed have documents from the case. If it is not a serial killer, it can be too confrontational.Still, you never know and for sure a creepy idea. If the killer had that weird and I would assume rare fetish with the sticks, branches and stakes, maybe the local sex workers may know exactly who it is? Clearly very familiar with the area of the crime and perhaps knew it as well as the back of his hand. The girls bodies were discovered on his . Some claims are listed as unverified. Also there are rumors that the girl left a note explain her pregnancy in a tree in her backyard. Ok he has committed some sort of sex crimes or other or weird crimes like peeping and whatnot. The few times Ive brought him up myself (this is really on Reddit) I have been ripped apart for my apparent stupidity. I read your recent blogs about the Delphi murders, and you have a ton of info. Allen is a married pharmaceutical technician. Unverified and Probably Not True. 11) I see his home. Q&A with Tara and Becky. FSG, or DMC: Probably shouldnt use his real name, but hes on everybodys suspect list. For whatever reason, she confuses facts all the time and cant keep her stories straight. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9738939/Lori-Vallow-charged-conspiracy-commit-murder-death-fourth-husband-Arizona.html?fbclid=IwAR2haqAKhF0vqWzP2aKiNyDy14kIG7SCjPxtWVXndA3Dt49wvD5xXRByYT8. Id rather not look into the NHI* (no humans involved) cases in the ghetto where one group of scumbags shoots up some other group of scumbags. Thanks for all the info much appreciated. Their bodies were discovered the next day in a wooded area around half a mile off the trail. Thats good enough for us to be probative. Investigators tracked Logans activities on the day of the murders and determined he was not forthcoming. The dolls may have been placed there before the crime. He stopped for gas and cigarettes. Try harder. Apparently neither girl was a virgin and both girls were sexually active in terms of PIV sex. I ask this because another theory says they could have gone up the creek to a barn and then they should have dry clothes. Its very rare for killers to take photos or videos of their crimes. Stop. Like a coward, we would add. Because statistically, the chance that it is a crazy serial killer would be smaller. We have your fingerprints on the counter.. Delphi Murders Update April 13, 2021: Stunning Rumors about the Murders and Related Matters Now Officially Proven! This March marks the 30 th anniversary of the murder of 21 year-old Penn State student, Dana Bailey. The judge would say you dont even have enough evidence against this man to take this case to court and throw it out of court. Instant person of interest. To be fair, two other men were also searching Rons land that night and they didnt find anything either, so it looks like those girls were pretty hard to miss. I dont know what these names mean. He has connections with current LE officers. Over the summer, the details of a search warrant revealed that Libby and Abigail were found covered in blood, and that their killer appeared to have taken a souvenir of some sort from the murder site. There are some absolutely fascinating old rumors on there that I have never heard before, mostly having to do with Young BG and his possible presence or involvement at the crime scene. We dont know about you all, but when we go visit our friends, we generally dont park a quarter mile away and hike in. We agree with that because we think they were sitting in his pocket the whole time! The gun jammed, which Garrett said is common. Where his truck was parked was a five minute walk to the crime scene. This source close to the retired detective will be referred to as an LE source close to the investigation. Delphi Murders Update April 13, 2021: Stunning Rumors about the Murders FBI agent: Bodies 'moved and staged' in Delphi murders, suspect took The affidavit states that Indiana State Police and the FBI carried out a search warrant on 25 February 2017 - less than two weeks after Abby and Libby were murdered at Mr Klines home in Peru after tracking down the user of the anthony_shots profile to the property. May have worked at Tyson Foods slaughterhouse in Logansport, Indiana and sister facility in Waterloo, Iowa in 2011-2012. How often to killers, of children or otherwise, take fucking photos and videos of their goddamned crimes? In my experience, this points to chicanery. If you have heard about this case and wish to discuss it, feel free. Im not familiar with Indiana; Ive never been there. They dont risk their careers to talk to bloggers. Top 3 Legends of All Time in Soccer America, Top 3 legends of All Time in Hollywood in America, Top 4 Major Cities in America of All Time. Give it a rest, everyone. A post from the horrible r/LibbyandAbby slime hole on Reddit. Investigators also claim Allen forced Abby and Libby down the hill to the spot where they were killed, according to the document. Possibly works with kids. It is being said that we are claiming all sorts of odd things about this crime, what happened, and the crime scene. Clothing soaked in blood, seen and unseen. I dont know this man very well, but he wasnt in on this crime. A brief clip of the man walking towards the girls on the Monon High Bridge Trail was released too. Required fields are marked *. The knife in the log was located near the girls right shoulder. This is a rumor that a woman walking her dogs on the bridge at 12:30 PM on the day of the murders, a full hour before BG probably appeared on the trails at 1:30 PM, saw a man who looked like the Young BG sketch. The investigators do believe that the suspect either lives or works in Delphi, Ind. In addition, note that he abducted two girls on the 13th, 2-13. Why would they NOT want to look for those types of things in a child murder with likely sa involved? New details in Delphi murder of Abby Williams and Libby German - Fox 59 Did he sleep? Days later the State of Indiana issues him a lifetime concealed carry permit signed by Superintendent Doug Carter. A girls hand wrapped around a knife which was plunged into a log that she was resting her head on. Most of Leigh Kerrs and the search party members testimony has gone into this bracket because unfortunately, while we think they are right, we cannot regard their testimony as probative. This was just the most underhanded, disgusting display of we need a fall guy, and LE should be ashamed of themselves. I get the impression that LE thought that this officer was lying and were trying to offer him some protection. I doubt it. We wish people would stop talking about fingerprints. It is interesting to note that the Evansdale girls were also abducted on the 13th. Dad is BG and KAK is waiting under the bridge. He ran off for s copy for us and sent it to us in the mail. Mr. X was employed by Indiana Packers around 2011 or 2012. Twice they were wrong. A few people were claiming it was Abby leaned against a tree with her face covered in blood, claw marks on the ground, and a pool of blood a few feet away. Cookie Notice Hi Robert, can you tell me if FSG and/or his brother were part of the search parties on either day? Thats going to be very hard for him to explain. There is evidence that may have worked at a Tyson packing plant in Logansport in 2011-2012. Will be posted by Saturday, March 11th. It says at one point apparently Machine Operator as a title, but then the vid definitely makes it a point to focus on Christian Teen Club. Not sure what the implication is there, but one can certainly imagine. Important facts released by family. Also, you develop better sources. Empiricism is a thing. I dont know if the bridge was within eyeshot of the spot where the girls were found. This seems to be one of the motives for the homicide. The only reason his wife would be coming to the site to retrieve his keys is if he lost his keys and she was coming to deliver a spare set. I think he already knew that they would be there. Horrible. I do not want to see this man or his family harassed in any way. Delphi Murders: 5 Years Later, Victim's Sister Clinging to Hope That Delphi Murders if bodies were staged or posed what does that - reddit But many questions still remain around the murders of Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14. Why dont you do a show on our theories. Double jeopardy? This girl was refusing to get an abortion that he wanted her to get. Update: We can now state that one of these documents is a search warrant, specifically for the Maxwell home. ABC News Evidence in the Delphi, Indiana, double murder case was unsealed by a county court on Tuesday, revealing key new details, including that suspect Richard Allen's gun was linked to the crime scene. His home was searched and he was arrested shortly after the killings, but he was released and never charged. I estimate that 85% of what we said here in past years has been shown to be false over time. Instead pay attention to this new sketch, some kid. Ill leave it up to you to believe what you want to believe. Affidavit gives new updates on Dephi murders The March 17, 2017, affidavit sheds lights on the crime scene. Another user is talking about them also. . A lot of my friends didnt join. On February 13, 2017, Libby and Abby took a hiking trip at the abandoned Monon High Bridge, in an outing that was only meant to be for a few hours.