Gossips offer plausible deniability. I have spoken to my pastor about this, and he insists that its fine for me as a parishioner to come as I am, but he as a pastor should be dressed alittle better, I told him if that is a personal conviction that is fine, but did he have any scripture to support that, of course he didnt. I have gone to Dayspring in Wisconsin and Hillcrest in El Paso and both have apps if you want to check them out. . In a biblical church the pastor is the overseers or leaders of the congregation. We should stand out because we are different. To only teach from the New Testament and ignoring the old is not using the whole Word of God. I have done my share of research on what defines a cult and unless Im missing something, we dont qualify as a such. Like I alluded to earlier most folks dont study their bible, and many do so with preconceived ideas, please have a look at your churchs stance on these issues according to scripture and see if Thomas Campbell is right about these things. Hundreds Accuse Independent Baptist Pastors of Abuse - News & Reporting Unfortunately, serious Bible study is in short supply these days. It is also true that we have a responsibility to tell people about the gospel message, especially those who we have contact with. I understand all that. One man Hanserd Knolleys, is an example of dissenter of the Church of England who had to flee to America. I dont know of any areas where their teachings are unbiblical or fundamental. Whether these groups of believers called themselves Baptists or not, if they were doctrinally pure, following the New Testament for their faith and practice they were New Testament churches and thus they can be called Baptistic. God has not entrusted that authority to impart salvation to any man or church. Tithing preceded the OT Law. He is not nearly as fundy as where I left from, and is learning. IFCA International was founded in 1930 as the Independent Fundamental Churches of America in response to the growing apostasy within the major denominations. You will find, to the left, a tags cloud as well as a category drop down menu. (I do love acapella singing, btw.). Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) Deception - Exposing the Biblical Mandate for BaptistDeception.com. Praise the Lord she started going back to church recently. Many churches were organized in the following years. This group is to help Pastors locate KJV IFB Churches. If you want to be under law, you need to keep all 613 commandments of the Mosaic law. Not once in the New Testament do you find even a hint that a church was legitimate because it was founded by Paul or called itself by a particular name. Lynne, I request any comment left to me is free of insults and vulgarities, please). Im not sure how they upkept thier Synagogue & relate dcostbut if Im not mistaken I learned during a conference that they actually gave more than our equivalent of a tenth in regards to thier goods/wealth (like mince, spices, etc)and perhaps separate monetray covered that cost or these items were bartered/traded to pay bills. 7. We preach modest clothing (unfortunatly most of the girls at my church dont adhere to it in that they wear skirts that expose all but a few inches of the upper leg). God alone has that authority and He in the person of the Holy Spirit brings conviction and salvation to those who in simple faith believe. In 1678, shortly after the church had erected a new building, the Puritan controlled government nailed its doors shut and forbade anyone under penalty of the law to enter or worship there. Jesus was prophesied in the old testament. The form contains many questions about doctrine and philosophy of ministry. I thought that this was the passage you were referring to. It has received 39 reviews with an average rating of 4.7 stars. Giving ten percent to God is a good thing, I agree with that. I am divorced, and I always sit in the front rows. WHICH BIBLE YOU USE DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE! Tithing I believe is liberty. An Independent Baptist Church would not be apart of a national organization that would exercise authority over the local church. G.L. We use our monetary resources alone. What's Wrong with the Independent Fundamental Baptists - Truth and Song You can tell right away that something doesnt sound right. If your church does teach the following then watch out, you are probably in a manipulating extreme IFB church situation. Where the pastors power is total? I met him about 25 years ago and our spirits bore witness that we are the sons of God. John was beheaded by Herod (Matt. The New Testament teaches that Christ is the head of the church,(Eph. Faith Baptist Church, Thomasville, GA - Videos Independent Baptist churches (some also called Independent Fundamental Baptist or IFB) are Christian congregations, generally holding to conservative (primarily fundamentalist) Baptist beliefs. Pedophiles hide in dark corners. So I wonder again is this God desire or your thing? The New Independent Fundamental Baptist (New IFB) Movement Matthew 7:1&2, Judge not, that ye be not judged. I would like to hear further explanation of the following: First I would disagree that The Church of Christ teaches first century, new testament doctrine. The cause is clear. In the simplest of terms a true Baptist assembly is one which follows the New Testament as his sole authority for his faith and practice. But if your axe is based on tithing being practiced & encouraged (no one mandates & makes me give)then you have a axe with much of Christendom. Just some thoughts. Sorry to tell you, but youve been deceived. (See Acts 20:28, Hebrews 13:7). And I dont study my Bible enough and would say no one does. In recent years the news media has called doctrinally unsound church such as the Charismatics and Pentecostals fundamentalists. Baptists have always been the champions of the Word of God and preaching of the Gospel. True Independent Fundamental Baptist Churches uphold the purest teachings of the early church as revealed in the New Testament. I also believe that hanging around with non-Christians is detrimental to ones faith as I have done this. Cooper P. Abrams, III ALL RIGHTS RESERVED: This publication has been reprinted with permission from the author. Some IFB are good fellowships, some Plymouth Brethren Open) are good fellowships..etc. The issue that concerns me about dress standards is that the position a church takes is a Biblical one. (David Benedict, A General History of the Baptist Denomination in American, and Other Parts of the World, London: Lincoln and Edmands, Nr. Thats kind of like being an American and never knowing enough about the nations beginnings to be able to make an intelligent decision about whether some politician is leading us away from freedom. Don't expect anything contemporary or liberal. Perfectly Preserved Word of God Deception, 67. They will not participate, on a church basis, or any outside function with churches which do not also strictly base their faith and practice on the New Testament. We never shun people who leave the church. Our goal here has always been to provide encouragement and resources for independent Baptists. Independent Church. So wonderful to hear you are making progress in your spiritual journey. While I do agree that there are some things that tradition has failed on (i.e. We are looking for passionate defenders of the faith and offer a viable alternative to New Evangelical and compromising mission boards. One of the cops finally suggested giving them all their American money and theyd be free to go with a warning. Anyone not holding Episcopal ordination was forbade to hold services. In 1638, Williams made his way to what is now Providence, Rhode Island, and there bought some land from the Indians. It did not produce a succession of other churches, but those who founded it went on to set up other Baptist churches in England. Because Knolleys refused to baptize infants and preached against it he was banned from the colony by the famous Puritan governor Cotton Mather. A preacher told me once we were not to judge, but that we were to be fruit inspectors. Likewiseif a church is teaching its wrong to do sothey are also in error. Thus, resolving to follow the Lords commands in truth, in March, 1639 he formed the first Baptist church on American soil. (1 Tim. These churches were missions minded and formed schools to train preachers and missionaries. After Henry VII separated England from the Roman Catholic Church the Baptist faired no better. But the police proceeded to arrest them and throw them in jail. either. Any church fellowship that encourages avoiding another Christian denomination/fellowship, even if they uphold & believe these, b/c they are not of the same denomination are in gross error & a cult. Fundamentalist Baptist Church I believe that the Bible is clear on what is modest apparel. Jesus didnt find it necessary to dress differently than anyone else, why should the MOG? There was no hierarchy in the churches he founded, which were patterned after the simple New Testament example. I do hope that your eyes will be opened up soon because keeping the law will not grant you entrance into heaven. But this article simply exposes the Baptist system as just another denomination among tens of thousands. I dont understand the context of your comment. 5. I understand what you are saying about these kind of messages with strong emotional appeals. As far as I recall no church ever told me must. So many churches have lost wonderful ministry opportunties by turning away those hurting, divorced folks, its a shame, God help us all to be sensitive to those who are hurting all around us. Here ar ethe key words: ought to have done without leaving the others undone, which would mean that tithing is good. The Official Independent Baptist Rulebook, Known in Some Churches as Church Standards Thou shalt obey the pastor at all times Thou shalt obey all adults at all times if you are a child or teenager Thou shalt obey your husband at all times if you are a woman Thou shalt obey your parents at all times Members are encouraged to post contact information for such churches. Places Near Chandler, AZ with Independent Fundamental Baptist Churches. He records that five hundred others who were identified as Anabaptists were also killed in England during this period. There is every value in appealing only to present adherence to the New Testament as ones sole authority for faith and practice. Some formed new churches and called themselves Baptists to make it clear that they believed and followed the New Testament. It originally applied through the 1700s to Lutherans, and Anglicans. I personally do not think tithing is wrong, When Jesus refers to tithing didnt He uphold it & only objected to other sins but did not speak aganist it. Im a Southern Baptist and celebrate Jesus and His grace! The Puritans were dissenters from the Church of England. Thanks for any love shown but what you just did Kaatie was take a few lines I wrote and placed them within your own ideaand that is know as taking something out of context . Shortly after the Church of England fell from grace when the English monarch was overthrown and the Presbyterians became the favored church of the state. I think it is true that God certainly does choose people and draw them to Himself. I am having a hard time figuring you out. (Quote from Dr. J. M. Carrolls booklet The Trail of Blood) These historians, in an attempt to show an unbroken line of Baptists in history, have embraced groups which were clearly not doctrinal sound. Fundamental Baptists are strict in interpreting the Bible in a literal sense. God richly bless you and Merry Christmas!